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>> and susan, you said we don't know how long the fbi was investigating. do we know the obama administration knew about this before the election? >> no, but wouldn't we all love to know the answer to that. that really is a burning question. it's just days after the election and something like this comes out. but clearly, something like this had been going on for a while. it wasn't -- you know, it's not likely that a couple days after the election, general petraeus had sort of a crisis of conscience and decided this is the time now for me to come clean on everything. which also makes you wonder, did other people know about this, and was there a possibility they could have used this against him or to blackmail him in any way? that would have spoken directly to his ability to hold a security clearance and protect those secrets as well, anderson, so lots of unanswered questions, but i'm told more will be coming out in the coming days. >> i guess oert questithe other did the administration, if they did know about it, decide not to let this be announced before t
>> and susan, you said we don't know how long the fbi was investigating. do we know the obama administration knew about this before the election? >> no, but wouldn't we all love to know the answer to that. that really is a burning question. it's just days after the election and something like this comes out. but clearly, something like this had been going on for a while. it wasn't -- you know, it's not likely that a couple days after the election, general petraeus had sort of a...
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after the fbi had been there. we believe they are valid. and thus far the state department has not eve acknowledge them. neil: that when alway one alwaya little strange to me. they're too stupid, left something of themselves behind, what do you think was going on? >> it was trouble some four weeks they could not get in there, and they were only in their evidently for a few hours. here we have some additional information that may shed light on what happened but did it happen. the state department obama administration is just not provided the document. we're doing investigation, congress will do an investigation. we deserve to have that information to get to the bottom of it. neil: with all these folks coming out, some going on the record, most off the record, these organizations saying we were trying to warn the administration, is almost as if they feel horribly guilty about what happened but they want to exonerate themselves to say we did everything we could do and we were ignored. is that the gist of it? >> if you had to summarize it, yes.
after the fbi had been there. we believe they are valid. and thus far the state department has not eve acknowledge them. neil: that when alway one alwaya little strange to me. they're too stupid, left something of themselves behind, what do you think was going on? >> it was trouble some four weeks they could not get in there, and they were only in their evidently for a few hours. here we have some additional information that may shed light on what happened but did it happen. the state...
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i mean, do you call the fbi if you get a creepy e-mail? if i called the fbi every time, they would need to set up a bureau here at 30 rock. here's another question. in spite of the conspiracy theories this was designed to undercut general petraeus before he testified on thursday about benghazi, this was a democratic plot to protect the president from hard questions and now even after the election. in light of those conspiracy theories which are being portrayed as fact on the right, how are we supposed to make light of the fact that two republican congressmen were apparently read in on this investigation by the fbi ahead of the white house and ahead of it going through more official channels. if this weren't the director of the cia this would not be an important story at all. but because each new detail takes the story in a new direction and every civilian involved in the case has hired high profile lawyers and because there's so many unanswered questions, this story rivals anything else going on in the country right now. the reporter who b
i mean, do you call the fbi if you get a creepy e-mail? if i called the fbi every time, they would need to set up a bureau here at 30 rock. here's another question. in spite of the conspiracy theories this was designed to undercut general petraeus before he testified on thursday about benghazi, this was a democratic plot to protect the president from hard questions and now even after the election. in light of those conspiracy theories which are being portrayed as fact on the right, how are we...
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was an fbi agent. i worked as a federal prosecutor the report directly to the department ofjustice. they work for the department justice. the idea you didot know about it, i don't understand that. lou: is it even imaginable that the head of the fbi and te attorney general would not have some considerable discussion about surveillance of the hed of the country's foremost spy agency? we will come right back with the case for an answer that question. at least the lou: fiscal cliff, fiscal cliff. you think we will be able to get a solution, these things, the president will stand up and leave in the two partiesill come together, embrace higher taxes and less spending? >> yes, i do. i really beliive in this country. labeling the country the brightest spot in the world two weeks ago. something has to be done, this is his moment to leave. >> i hope you are right. lou: do you agree or just hoping? >> i am in the hoping cegory. i have not seen any indication in that, any indication of embracing. neil: saying rep
was an fbi agent. i worked as a federal prosecutor the report directly to the department ofjustice. they work for the department justice. the idea you didot know about it, i don't understand that. lou: is it even imaginable that the head of the fbi and te attorney general would not have some considerable discussion about surveillance of the hed of the country's foremost spy agency? we will come right back with the case for an answer that question. at least the lou: fiscal cliff, fiscal cliff....
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the fbi. as i understand it they have protocols in place for when the notify the legislative and executive branches of investigations. the fbi is the place to go in terms of explanation the protocols they follow. i would refer, that said earlier, to policies in place at the fbi for how they deal with notifications investigations. lou: as you saw and heard, a frustrating day for the white house press corps. the president spokesman however did not shy away from a question on this petraeus would testify in front of congress on benghazi. made it clear the administration is firmly supportive of petraeus' successor. he will be facing questions that are still lingering over if the cia refused requests for help on the ground on september 11 and why three days after that attack then director petraeus but in the attack in the flash mob incited by childish, amateurish, less than 14 minutes long youtube video. >> is up to congress to make decisions of who is called to testify. but the president is confide
the fbi. as i understand it they have protocols in place for when the notify the legislative and executive branches of investigations. the fbi is the place to go in terms of explanation the protocols they follow. i would refer, that said earlier, to policies in place at the fbi for how they deal with notifications investigations. lou: as you saw and heard, a frustrating day for the white house press corps. the president spokesman however did not shy away from a question on this petraeus would...
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that's an issue with respect to the fbi. they are apolitical, i have a lot of confidence in director of the fbi, mueller. and they conducted investigations -- i was an investigative prosecutor, they get the facts and the data and the interviews. i can understand from the public's point of view that it looks political. i can understand where people would think that. i can only deal with the facts and data we have and the information i have. as far as i'm concerned, the deputy director came before our committee today, he said it was not political. they gave us a timeline on how they are conduct others the investigation and the investigation is going forwards -- it's really only day 1 on capitol hill, pretty much. >> right. we were out. now we are back in. the chairman of the committee and i, as far as i am sure, senator dianne feinstein and chandliss were briefed. and you talked about -- about gym petraeus, a very sad situation. but it was a serious situation. and you know, the fact that he did resign was penitentiary because
that's an issue with respect to the fbi. they are apolitical, i have a lot of confidence in director of the fbi, mueller. and they conducted investigations -- i was an investigative prosecutor, they get the facts and the data and the interviews. i can understand from the public's point of view that it looks political. i can understand where people would think that. i can only deal with the facts and data we have and the information i have. as far as i'm concerned, the deputy director came...
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we had the fbi and i believe the national center for counterterrorism also giving briefings. >> paul: that's right. >> saying this. why was general petraeus's testimony then so at odds with other parts of the community? >> but does this, would this give-- what does it mean for, say, susan rice and the administration then? is this, does this help them politically by shielding them or does petraeus here saying i thought it was a terrorist attack, does that mean this puts, for example, susan rice's statements more up to scrutiny? >> well, i think answers the fundamental question, did they deliberately mislead on this case for political reasons because they were driving the narrative that al-qaeda had been decimated and the war, war was receding or a question of incompetence. neither of those two things is good for the administration although it's after the election, so, they can get the consequences. >> let's take a look at the president talking about susan rice, the u.n. ambassador who many think he will nominate to succeed hillary clinton as secretary of state. >> for them to go after
we had the fbi and i believe the national center for counterterrorism also giving briefings. >> paul: that's right. >> saying this. why was general petraeus's testimony then so at odds with other parts of the community? >> but does this, would this give-- what does it mean for, say, susan rice and the administration then? is this, does this help them politically by shielding them or does petraeus here saying i thought it was a terrorist attack, does that mean this puts, for...
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john miller is with us now a former fbi assistant director. john, i want to ask you about the front page of the "the washington post" which suggests the fbi renewed focus on sensitive material that was found inside broadwell's home. are they expanding their focus? >> i think "the washington post" is expanding their focus. this has become a little headline driven. what the fbi is doing is what you would do at the end of any investigation but especially a high-profile investigation which is they are tying up the loose ends which is okay classified documents were found in her computer in which he were examining in the first part of the case. were there other computers? yes. what about paper documents. they want to pick all that up and go through it and say is there any other classified material in here. is it still classified. they have to bring this all to a prosecutor, the alleged stalking allegations, the classified documents and they are either going to have to say there enough to go forward and it's complicated. she does have a secret cleara
john miller is with us now a former fbi assistant director. john, i want to ask you about the front page of the "the washington post" which suggests the fbi renewed focus on sensitive material that was found inside broadwell's home. are they expanding their focus? >> i think "the washington post" is expanding their focus. this has become a little headline driven. what the fbi is doing is what you would do at the end of any investigation but especially a high-profile...
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this i was told by an fbi agent at a lie level, if this involved a high level fbi executive, he would have been out the door the same day. they wouldn't have left him in office. yet he was in office from the spring until october. and then just by coincidence obama is told two days after the election? it's so transparent that this is a big coverup. and the real issue, as you mentioned, is the blackmail issue. and that is russian foreign intelligence criminals, if they had gotten on to this affair, would have used it as blackmail against petraeus to get our biggest secrets, and that's why with the security clearance you are not supposed to compromise yourself in this way. >> let me go to the congressman. so the fbi director had to know. he meets with the president. eric holder had to know, he meets with the president. we are saying a cia director that is involved in a compromising situation that's correct that was not brought to the attention of the president? what if it wasn't? is that not dereliction of duty in is that not incompetence on that part? if the president did know, what doe
this i was told by an fbi agent at a lie level, if this involved a high level fbi executive, he would have been out the door the same day. they wouldn't have left him in office. yet he was in office from the spring until october. and then just by coincidence obama is told two days after the election? it's so transparent that this is a big coverup. and the real issue, as you mentioned, is the blackmail issue. and that is russian foreign intelligence criminals, if they had gotten on to this...
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>> greta: well, i was contacted by an individual at the fbi who i had never met, i didn't know. he offered informs to me -- information to me that gave me pause and a cause for alarm. i had no way to corroborate the information. and certainly, the information to me... gave rise to the possibility that there was a national security issue that perhaps our cia director was vulnerable. but again, i couldn't corroborate or substantiate the information that was given it me. we were about 10 days or a few weeks out before the election. and i didn't want to politicize it. i wanted to make sure that national security wasn't at risk. so i turned to the person and the entit that i thought -- entity i thought best equipped to deal with that information to get to the bottom of it. that was the fbi director in his office that we know has an obligation to make sure that our national security is the priority and the fbi's also obligated to apprise congress if there is a need for or an ongoing investigation or if there is a national security risk at hand. and so that's why i did what i did. and
>> greta: well, i was contacted by an individual at the fbi who i had never met, i didn't know. he offered informs to me -- information to me that gave me pause and a cause for alarm. i had no way to corroborate the information. and certainly, the information to me... gave rise to the possibility that there was a national security issue that perhaps our cia director was vulnerable. but again, i couldn't corroborate or substantiate the information that was given it me. we were about 10...
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the investigation is continuing, this is new information coming out about frederick humphries, the fbi agent that led the investigation. he is a 16-year veteran, humphries got to know jill kelley in tampa, and she turned to him when she received anonymous e-mails last spring, the e-mails they found alarming. today, there was a picture he sent, telling the seattle times it was a joke. he was posing with target dummies after s.w.a.t. practice. it was humphries that told david reichert about an old friend, he letter alerted him almost two weeks before the president was told. >> the information sent to me sounded as if there was a potential for a national security vulnerability. >> reporter: today, eric holder was asked why he didn't tell the president sooner. >> we follow the facts, we do not share outside the justice department, outside the fbi, the fa facts of ongoing investigations, we made the determination as we were going through the matter that there was not a threat to national security. >> reporter: also today, defense secretary leon panetta ordered the chairman of the joint chie
the investigation is continuing, this is new information coming out about frederick humphries, the fbi agent that led the investigation. he is a 16-year veteran, humphries got to know jill kelley in tampa, and she turned to him when she received anonymous e-mails last spring, the e-mails they found alarming. today, there was a picture he sent, telling the seattle times it was a joke. he was posing with target dummies after s.w.a.t. practice. it was humphries that told david reichert about an...
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that's the concern here from the fbi's standpoint. the new york times reporting that the house and senate intel committees didn't know about it until this week, though they should be briefed on this type of thing. it's a major problem. also, i mean, he has a detail, he's the cia chief. if he was messing around, didn't the detail know about it? >> greta: unless it predated his timive that's tru. we tonight know. >> what is the role of the timing here? obviously, this was going on well before the election. have you the election going on. you have republicans -- some of whom wanted to make more political issue out of benghazi and then you had this -- potentially explosive development going on. why did we find out about it immediately after the election? want before? >> greta: how about senator dianne feinstein, in theic chair of the senate select committee on intel in she said that the president shouldn't have accepted the resignation. >> yeah, look, i think that's crazy. first of all, the message it would send, if people knew what he wa
that's the concern here from the fbi's standpoint. the new york times reporting that the house and senate intel committees didn't know about it until this week, though they should be briefed on this type of thing. it's a major problem. also, i mean, he has a detail, he's the cia chief. if he was messing around, didn't the detail know about it? >> greta: unless it predated his timive that's tru. we tonight know. >> what is the role of the timing here? obviously, this was going on...
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as an old fbi agent, you should prove it first. >> but this is important. you're saying petraeus says, look, i said it was terrorism all along. susan rice told the american people we thought it was spontaneous. there's a disconnect. >> even more important than that, the narrative as it went from the cia to other intelligence agencies was correct. it was an act of terrorism. we knew that. the difference is what happened when it went outside of the intelligence community for, as the senator called it, you know, a committee to look at this thing and make the determination on what the narrative was. the narrative was wrong. and why that's important, this isn't just about parsing words and who was right. there was some policy decisions made based on the narrative that was not consistent with the intelligence that we had. that's my concern. and we need to say, hey, we need to figure out how that happened, and let's make sure that doesn't happen again. >> did people die because we didn't protect them adequately? is that the bottom line here? >> david, we gave the
as an old fbi agent, you should prove it first. >> but this is important. you're saying petraeus says, look, i said it was terrorism all along. susan rice told the american people we thought it was spontaneous. there's a disconnect. >> even more important than that, the narrative as it went from the cia to other intelligence agencies was correct. it was an act of terrorism. we knew that. the difference is what happened when it went outside of the intelligence community for, as the...
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the fbi is also investigating. general petraeus to me -- i feel heartbroken about this -- is and always will be a truly exception american hero. he is like eisenhower. eisenhower had an affair also and he didn't resign. the idea that david petraeus can be blackmailed because he has a woman friend is totally ridiculous. this man -- this man has put his life at risk for his country over and over again. somebody's going to come to him and say, you better give us secrets or i'm going to tell your wife you have a girlfriend. at some pointo have to grow up. half our presidents would have had to resign over this. >> greta: let me play devil's advocate, if he is vulnerable enough to want to hide something, the reason why you tell all in these investigations, when you get the job, you want to disclose them is so that you don't become material for blackmail. >> right. >> greta: there is also the added problem, that as a man of his great stature tdoes send a message to others in the military about -- about honor, trust and di
the fbi is also investigating. general petraeus to me -- i feel heartbroken about this -- is and always will be a truly exception american hero. he is like eisenhower. eisenhower had an affair also and he didn't resign. the idea that david petraeus can be blackmailed because he has a woman friend is totally ridiculous. this man -- this man has put his life at risk for his country over and over again. somebody's going to come to him and say, you better give us secrets or i'm going to tell your...
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. >> the only time would be if the fbi was found to have leaked classified information. and that was not the case, the fbi followed the right protocols and did the right thing in this case. >> reporter: officials here say that general clapper, the director of intelligence, was told about all of this with no recommendations made last week as a personnel matter, not as an intelligence matter. >> all right, pete williams at the justice tonight, thank you. >>> we shift our focus now to indianapolis where a mysterious explosion totally changed the landscape of an entire neighborhood over the weekend. you can see what the richmond hills subdivision south of the city looked like before 7:00 saturday night and post 11:00 p.m. saturday night, more on the story. >> reporter: good evening, brian, a homeowner has told authorities that the faulty gas furnace in his home may be to blame. the family was not there when the explosion happened. until the investigation continues, some 200 people fled their home that night and had no idea what hit them. 11:00 on a saturday night, without wa
. >> the only time would be if the fbi was found to have leaked classified information. and that was not the case, the fbi followed the right protocols and did the right thing in this case. >> reporter: officials here say that general clapper, the director of intelligence, was told about all of this with no recommendations made last week as a personnel matter, not as an intelligence matter. >> all right, pete williams at the justice tonight, thank you. >>> we shift...
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by the fbi for his role in the case. specifically why he took concerns about this case to republican members of congress. house and senate panels are expected to meet again today with fbi and cia officials. they want to know whether national security was jeopardized and why congress didn't know about the investigation sooner. during a news conference on wednesday president obama praised david petraeus. >> general petraeus had an extraordinary career. he served this country with great distinction in iraq, in afghanistan and as head of the cia. by his own assessment he did not meet the standards that he felt were necessary a the director of the cia with respect to this personal matter that he's now dealing with, with his family and with his wife. and it's on that basis that he tendered his resignation and i accepted. >> they are looking into the handling of the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. tomorrow they will hear from david petraeus. susan mcginnis is in washington with more. >> reporter: this is something con
by the fbi for his role in the case. specifically why he took concerns about this case to republican members of congress. house and senate panels are expected to meet again today with fbi and cia officials. they want to know whether national security was jeopardized and why congress didn't know about the investigation sooner. during a news conference on wednesday president obama praised david petraeus. >> general petraeus had an extraordinary career. he served this country with great...
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but it's a specific problem for bob muller, head of the fbi, how do you, as head of the fbi, explain that you have these letters, drafted -- and found by the way, among many documents that we believe to be authentic, a copy of the new yorker magazine, addressed to ambassador stevens and expense reports and others things that suggest they weren't forged do you means to make the administration look bad. how do you explain missing evidence? this tells part of the story. if you have a back story that suggests that the police, car 322 was doing surveillance on the compound, two days before this attack, and then you have shawn smith in his last messages that he typed to his gaming message board saying, we are under watch by the police. this is important evidence. it is sit the on the ground of the consulate. it is unbelievable. >> greta: rick, the senator roberts said that the military have asked him about it, veterans. but i don't see -- i mean, i don't see a lot of people talking about it. will this have no impact on the vote in some impact? >> last time i talked about this, i got ripped
but it's a specific problem for bob muller, head of the fbi, how do you, as head of the fbi, explain that you have these letters, drafted -- and found by the way, among many documents that we believe to be authentic, a copy of the new yorker magazine, addressed to ambassador stevens and expense reports and others things that suggest they weren't forged do you means to make the administration look bad. how do you explain missing evidence? this tells part of the story. if you have a back story...
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>> well, that's a good question, especially on the fbi side because fbi agents are shocked that it appears that politics has entered into fbi decisions on the timing of the investigation. it just happened to end on the very day after the election, and during that time, during those months, petraeus was left in office and could have been compromised, could have been blackmailed, and so the administration was taking a risk that that might happen. that's one of the most serious aspects of this whole matter. >> guys, good to see you. thanks for being with us. >>> coming up, what's the president's real agenda when it comes to the so-called fiscal cliff? is he really hoping for resolution. >>> defending susan rice, the head of the congressional black caucus is labeling the ambassador's critics as racist and sexist and she's specifically calling out senator john mccain. we'll examine the latest use of the race ca card and the so-cald war on women. i told him, sure. can't hurt, right? then i heard this news about a multivitamin study looking at long-term health benefits for men over 50. the one th
>> well, that's a good question, especially on the fbi side because fbi agents are shocked that it appears that politics has entered into fbi decisions on the timing of the investigation. it just happened to end on the very day after the election, and during that time, during those months, petraeus was left in office and could have been compromised, could have been blackmailed, and so the administration was taking a risk that that might happen. that's one of the most serious aspects of...
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the fbi learned that the e-mails were coming from broadwell, and they interviewed paula broadwell and general petraeus, and they admitted that they were having an affair with each other. they said that the affair went on after he left the military. if it went on during military duty he could be prosecuted in military courts. they also looked at whether broadwell leaked confidential information. she gave a speech in october and its getting particular attention because she suggested that the attacks on the libyan consulate were retaliation for the united states taking libyans hostage. >> i don't know if you a lot of you heard this, but the c.i.a. had taken a couple of libyan militia members prisoner, and they believe that the attack on the consulate was because of that. he's not been able to communicate with the press. he has known all of this. >> jennifer: hmm. so the c.i.a. called those statements uninformed and basils but itbaseless. she said she later heard that stuff on fox news but fox news never reported it. so then tonight a local north carolina news station reported several fbi
the fbi learned that the e-mails were coming from broadwell, and they interviewed paula broadwell and general petraeus, and they admitted that they were having an affair with each other. they said that the affair went on after he left the military. if it went on during military duty he could be prosecuted in military courts. they also looked at whether broadwell leaked confidential information. she gave a speech in october and its getting particular attention because she suggested that the...
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>>guest: the fbi works for the justice department and the attorney general. their chain of command would be to take it to the attorney -- the hoover years stopped it. that is what is upsetting in the hoover years with one intelligence agency investigating another and not telling anyone else. >>neil: what do we make leaving aside the draw difficult -- the tawdry details, what do you make of the agency investigating this other agency? >>guest: they should have taken it up the chain of command and saying we don't want to be have thing this. we know that the president didn't know, and the format that key members of congress were not informs so, that is the problem, why did it just stop withholder. and the political angle was it withheld to use it as leverage over general petraeus after september 11th? did general petraeus know he was being investigated? >>neil: how would that affect the october trip? >>guest: who is the guy who knows the most about terrorism and what happened in benghazi, probably david petraeus, the chief al qaeda warrior and fighter for iraq, a
>>guest: the fbi works for the justice department and the attorney general. their chain of command would be to take it to the attorney -- the hoover years stopped it. that is what is upsetting in the hoover years with one intelligence agency investigating another and not telling anyone else. >>neil: what do we make leaving aside the draw difficult -- the tawdry details, what do you make of the agency investigating this other agency? >>guest: they should have taken it up the...
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everything from his initial reaction to how this was handled by the fbi. so first to the point of his initial reaction, if you take white house press secretary jay carney's briefing yesterday as a guide that gives you a sense that president obama will likely talk about that fact that he was stunned. he'll likely also thank general petraeus for his service to the country and also express his continued support of general allen while this investigation is ongoing. in terms of this other big question that lawmakers have been talking about quite a bit, this question of when president obama was informed about the entire situation, i think that you will hear president obama essentially defer those questions to the fbi. essentially not question the fbi's handling of this situation. that is what i expect. anyway, thomas, based on carney's briefing that we heard yesterday. this is such a stunning situation, because, remember, this is the last thing that president obama was expecting to talk about during his first press conference, what he intended to be focusing on,
everything from his initial reaction to how this was handled by the fbi. so first to the point of his initial reaction, if you take white house press secretary jay carney's briefing yesterday as a guide that gives you a sense that president obama will likely talk about that fact that he was stunned. he'll likely also thank general petraeus for his service to the country and also express his continued support of general allen while this investigation is ongoing. in terms of this other big...